Playable Species

[Ltc. Hubert Greenburrow II]

Jul 20, 2008 1:55:09 GMT -5 RakingClaw said:

What about a Skunk? I would really like to play one if at all possible.

No, Skunks should not be on the list because Brian Jacques has stated that he only uses animals that are European in the Redwall series and Skunks are not European.

However, you may be able to RP as one if you get permission from and Administrator. Perhaps you should PM one and see what they say.

By the way, I have a few more species that could be added to the list: kingfisher, though it is not metntioned if they speak (at least understandably), but neither did the Horse from Redwall, Snowy Owl, Barn Owl, Heron, Dipper, Jerbilrat.

I think nearly all, if not all, should be listed under neutral, as is customary with the birds in the Redwall series.

Thanks.

P. S. You might wanna consider listing specific secies of Snakes like Adder and Grass Snake. Also not listed is Newt and Red-Frilled (or just Frilled) Lizard.

[RakingClaw]

thanks! I will do that!

[Ltc. Hubert Greenburrow II]

Hmm, I couldn't seem to find anything that Skunks live(d) in Europe.

You say you know Skunks weren't in the Redwall series so why should they be on the list?

Another few species, kingfisher, slowworm, and woodpigeon.

[RakingClaw]

yah your right they were native to North America, but they were transported in large quantities to Europe for royalty. They even bred their own breeds over there. Im actually not sure if they ever appeared in the red wall books or not, but im assuming they did not.

[Ltc. Hubert Greenburrow II]

Jul 26, 2008 12:18:10 GMT -5 RakingClaw said:

yah your right they were native to North America, but they were transported in large quantities to Europe for royalty. They even bred their own breeds over there. Im actually not sure if they ever appeared in the red wall books or not, but im assuming they did not.

Yeah, they didn't ever appear in the Redwall series.

I found some more species that are not on the list:

1. Blackbird
2. Red Kite
3. Falcon
4. Honey Buzzard
5. Short-Eared Owl
6. Long-Eared Owl
7. Tawny Owl
8. Wren
9. Goose
10. Shrike

I think Osprey should be listed under a type of eagle, in Marlfox it is described as osprey, an eagle, and a fishing eagle.

[Ashstripe]

That's quite a big order, I'll add those soon enough.

Edit: Goose was already on the list.

[Mara Tenderfoot]

Hugh, most of those ARE on the list, and are crossed off, but, Blackbirds are there under Neutral(special permission) and Bad (normal)

Kits and Falcons are crossed off, Owls are there, Honey Buzzard is crossed off, Wren and goose are there.

THE ONLY ONE NOT ON THE LIST IS SHRIKE, ASH

[Hermie]

I know I posted this in another thread, but this one seems more appropriate.
Since there was evidence of wolf existance in the Bellmaker (Urgan Nagru/Foxwolf), shouldn't a non-Mossflower-native wolf be allowed? I recall the Urgan Nagru finding the wolf's body in the "land of ice and snow", if I'm not mistaken.

[Chancellor Zeffer Winterfur]

[glow=white,2,300]True, there was a wolf. However, the wolf was only in one book, similar to the horse. So, those exist but are placed on restricted, similar to the Marl Fox because they only appear once, and are never really mentioned else where.
Restricted doesn't mean that one can't get the character. You would be required to ask an admin, then the admin would put the application to the council, the council would decide if you were worthy or if it was alright to have a wolf. Then debate it and arrive at a verdict.[/glow]

[Ashstripe]

Yep, same reason as the horse. They've only made one appearance and don't appear to be very sentient to the world of Redwall - a bit of a grey area really, just ask and we'll decide as Zeffer already stated.

Marlfoxes were all apparently killed off, in er...Marlfox.

[Hermie]

Alrighty then. I'll figure out another character to start with and see where that goes.

I have a hedgehog character, but he's made more for the Sonic the Hedgehog universe. Maybe I'll modify him.. Or I could just come up with something new.

[Ashstripe]

Always glad to have another Hedgehog on the site mate, heck, even Baron or Cellarhog would be great!

[Shadess]

what about magpies and seagulls?

[Grath]

Magpies would be evil, wouldn't they? Or neutral?

I don't know about the seagulls, they never spoke or anything, just attacked other creatures. They didn't seem to be sentient at all.

[Shadess]

true, and they could only roleplay at the coastlines, there like crabs, never talking. but you could be like a really unnormally smart seagull or something XD.

magpies could be both because in mattimeo there evil but still, that dosent make them all bad

[Ashstripe]

I would dare say Seagulls would fall under the same category as Toads(And other Reptiles) and Sharks. Not really good or evil, just very primitive, though the reptiles are debatable.

I can't remember the finer details of Mattimeo, though I'd think the Magpies would be evil. Same case with all the other 'vermin', your logic still applies. Their not all bad. I.E That Sea-rat who started his own ship-building...He was friendly with dibbuns and I can't remember which book he was from.

Good vermin are starting to get over-done though, heck, I should start throwing in some villains when or if I get the time to.

[zelfur]

hmm yes Magpies are evil, but yet im sure not EVERY magpie is bad. But yeah, i still think they shall fall over Evil.

Seagulls cant talk, they just eat off the weaker, also they could only RP in the coastlines as Wolf Lover said. Its just like crabs and pikes.

what about crocodile? i THINK there was one, gaw, my short memory has failed me!

why cant we have Red Kites? i mean one is in Mattimeo.

[Grath]

Crocodiles were never in the Redwall books. Besides, they aren't native.

[Shadess]

why aren't we aloud to be a Red Kite?

and i have another speacies; eel, there is one in Outcast of Redwall i think.

[Ashstripe]

*Necromancy*

I can't remember the exact reasoning, but I think they were a very rare specimen within the series. There was just the one sickly kite if my memory is serving me correctly.

But if there are others, go ahead and prove me wrong =). I'll amend the list.

I'll add Eels, though they'd probably be the same as Seagulls or Sharks, not exactly RP material since their quite primal and very limited in the areas they can RP in.